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{"topics":[{"id":"53908c4163687202ed040100","topic_id":"5161dd617f123bd25900013d","body":"\"@HJSDGCE\":/dis/the-time-wasting-thread/post/53908aae63687202ed9f0000#post_53908aae63687202ed9f0000\r\nDeterrence","author":"4fde4618945b700aa0002fff"},{"id":"5390a94263687225ec0b0200","topic_id":"5161dd617f123bd25900013d","body":"\"@gasmaskangel\":/dis/the-time-wasting-thread/post/53908bfb6368722cb32c0400#post_53908bfb6368722cb32c0400\r\n[bq=\"gasmaskangel\"]\"@HJSDGCE\":/dis/the-time-wasting-thread/post/53908aae63687202ed9f0000#post_53908aae63687202ed9f0000\r\nBecause in a weird way they actually deter conflict. If not for the threat of mutually assured destruction then it would be a lot more tempting to just invade, butchering thousand and thousands of soldiers and civilians in conventional warfare.\r\n\r\nFor instance, when was the last time a nuclear power got invaded?[/bq]\r\nYou do realize that the immediate problem with that idea is proxy wars and that during the cold war there was a metric fuck ton of wars, genocides and that right?  Also how since the collapse of the soviet union the world is far more peaceful right?  Also how the taliban in afghanistan are/were fighting soldiers with american made guns we provided them to fight the soviet union in a proxy war and how there's a entire island of chemical weapons that the soviet union just fucking dumped a shit ton of chemical weapons in with no real security right?  Or how declassified papers talk about how the USSR was where Assad got his chemical weapons?  So yeah, dumping chemical weapons in the middle of nowhere with no security and handing terrorists guns and weapons totally makes us more secure.\r\n\r\nBefore someone goes, \"fuck america\" it's not just the usa at fault here; rather it's everyone's fault and not just the usa or russia, but countries and individuals who believed in interventionalism to fight those, \"dirty commies\"/\"capitalist loving rednecks\" and so forth.\r\n\r\nThat's like burning down a entire city just to protect a single block from a kitchen fire halfway across town.\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n*STOP!*\r\nIf someone here supports nuclear proliferation then I just have one single solitary question that needs answered; if nuclear proliferation makes us safe then why is it that after the collapse of the soviet union the world has become a much more peaceful place?","author":"38b55cdf63616403d7560600"},{"id":"5390aa7463687278be340100","topic_id":"5161dd617f123bd25900013d","body":"\"@uc9\":/dis/the-time-wasting-thread/post/5390a94263687225ec0b0200#post_5390a94263687225ec0b0200\r\nIs it a nice block?","author":"515ddf93a4c72d8a1f000d57"},{"id":"5390ab846368723f132f0000","topic_id":"5161dd617f123bd25900013d","body":"\"@ThatRandomGuy42\":/dis/the-time-wasting-thread/post/5390aa7463687278be340100#post_5390aa7463687278be340100\r\nNot really; it looks nice, but the houses are actually cardboard backdrops.","author":"38b55cdf63616403d7560600"},{"id":"5390ac166368723ba5ee0400","topic_id":"5161dd617f123bd25900013d","body":"\"Space sheriff Shaider\":http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cQkXsvxxjdc","author":"5062d6f17f123b3e16001184"},{"id":"5390adee6368723ba54e0500","topic_id":"5161dd617f123bd25900013d","body":"\"@uc9\":/dis/the-time-wasting-thread/post/5390a94263687225ec0b0200#post_5390a94263687225ec0b0200\r\nI did forget to mention the proxy wars, you are correct and I certainly never said it was moral. My point is more that countries with nukes tend not to get invaded.","author":"4f41ee04945b701c41002af7"},{"id":"5390af3b636872151d920300","topic_id":"5161dd617f123bd25900013d","body":"\"@uc9\":/dis/the-time-wasting-thread/post/5390ab846368723f132f0000#post_5390ab846368723f132f0000\r\n:(","author":"515ddf93a4c72d8a1f000d57"},{"id":"5390b05a6368727dc9f50200","topic_id":"5161dd617f123bd25900013d","body":"\"@gasmaskangel\":/dis/the-time-wasting-thread/post/5390adee6368723ba54e0500#post_5390adee6368723ba54e0500\r\n[bq=\"gasmaskangel\"]\"@uc9\":/dis/the-time-wasting-thread/post/5390a94263687225ec0b0200#post_5390a94263687225ec0b0200\r\nI did forget to mention the proxy wars, you are correct and I certainly never said it was moral. My point is more that countries with nukes tend not to get invaded.[/bq]\r\nProblems with that:\r\nWho is supposed to invade the usa?  Canada?  Mexico?\r\nRule #1 of asia wars: DON'T invade Russia; especially during the winter\r\nRule #2 of asia wars: DON'T have a ground war in china.","author":"38b55cdf63616403d7560600"},{"id":"5390b5b46368722216070000","topic_id":"5161dd617f123bd25900013d","body":"i guess war is humans way of natural selection.","author":"5154c5237f123bcd580002fc"},{"id":"5390b5c463687222160c0000","topic_id":"5161dd617f123bd25900013d","body":"\"@uc9\":/dis/the-time-wasting-thread/post/5390b05a6368727dc9f50200#post_5390b05a6368727dc9f50200\r\nRule #3 Never get involved with a Sicilian when DEATH is on the line.\r\n\r\nReally, I take your point however its worth noting that despite those factors people did, repeatedly, try to invade Russia and China, and while the only foreign power to successfully invade the US was the British Empire a couple hundred years ago, History teaches us that the people making the decision to go to war are fucking dumb motherfuckers about it. The fact nuclear weapons would pose a threat to the rulers and not just the dumb smucks they are all to happy to send to their deaths for God, Country and whatever local desert is favorite does add an element of deterrence to nuclear weapons.\r\n\r\nTo revisit your analogy of them being like burning down a whole city to save a single block, that is a powerful incentive for the people living on the city block.\r\n\r\nNuclear weapons ultimately only make things safer for the rulers of countries with nuclear weapons, but as much as I do hate to use the term, there is a trickle down effect for the average citizens of said country.\r\n\r\nNow of course the minute some insane, fuck the world types get their hands on them _cough,_ Pakistani Al Queada sympathizers _cough cough_ all of this goes right out the fucking window because nukes are still the single most destructive and horrifying weapon ever to proliferate on this planet, they are still awful, but in the short term having them is beneficial to the country that has them and no one else.","author":"4f41ee04945b701c41002af7"},{"id":"5390b935636872222de60200","topic_id":"5161dd617f123bd25900013d","body":"!http://37.media.tumblr.com/5f0621835654539603a5894ea66e63e6/tumblr_n6mirjKUcv1rz79boo1_1280.jpg!","author":"5154c5237f123bcd580002fc"},{"id":"5390b98a6368725524410000","topic_id":"5161dd617f123bd25900013d","body":"\"@twistedmetalero\":/dis/the-time-wasting-thread/post/5390b935636872222de60200#post_5390b935636872222de60200\r\nI want to find this girl and shake her hand!","author":"4fde4618945b700aa0002fff"},{"id":"5390ba2e63687222165c0100","topic_id":"5161dd617f123bd25900013d","body":"\"@twistedmetalero\":/dis/the-time-wasting-thread/post/5390b935636872222de60200#post_5390b935636872222de60200\r\nI don't get it","author":"4fe16df67f123b13e400003f"},{"id":"5390bb67636872576fcc0400","topic_id":"5161dd617f123bd25900013d","body":"\"@twistedmetalero\":/dis/the-time-wasting-thread/post/5390b935636872222de60200#post_5390b935636872222de60200\r\nThis girl speaks truth. Besides, I totally ship Kanji X Naota.\r\n\r\n\"@Whatevs\":/dis/the-time-wasting-thread/post/5390ba2e63687222165c0100#post_5390ba2e63687222165c0100\r\nThat is because you need to play Persona 4.","author":"4f41ee04945b701c41002af7"},{"id":"5390bcea636872352e330000","topic_id":"5161dd617f123bd25900013d","body":"\"@gasmaskangel\":/dis/the-time-wasting-thread/post/5390bb67636872576fcc0400#post_5390bb67636872576fcc0400\r\nNah man Protagonist X Kanji all the way.","author":"4fde4618945b700aa0002fff"},{"id":"5390bcf0636872352e380000","topic_id":"5161dd617f123bd25900013d","body":"!http://37.media.tumblr.com/a79d3846e13a52d83dbe4a7ccc49b8ee/tumblr_n0hc43zCdb1rs11txo1_1280.png!","author":"5154c5237f123bcd580002fc"},{"id":"5390bd026368723f13140500","topic_id":"5161dd617f123bd25900013d","body":"\"@twistedmetalero\":/dis/the-time-wasting-thread/post/5390bcf0636872352e380000#post_5390bcf0636872352e380000\r\n\r\nMy personal motto.","author":"5041b54f7f123b77af00a442"},{"id":"5390bd91636872576fb00500","topic_id":"5161dd617f123bd25900013d","body":"\"@gasmaskangel\":/dis/the-time-wasting-thread/post/5390bb67636872576fcc0400#post_5390bb67636872576fcc0400\r\nNo I do not. Who is Green Madoka?","author":"4fe16df67f123b13e400003f"},{"id":"5390be176368721a3ccd0200","topic_id":"5161dd617f123bd25900013d","body":"[NSFW]\r\n\r\n[spoiler]!http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/769/408/d85.jpg![/spoiler] ","author":"5154c5237f123bcd580002fc"},{"id":"5390be176368726a13a30100","topic_id":"5161dd617f123bd25900013d","body":"\"@SquiggyBomb\":/dis/the-time-wasting-thread/post/5390bcea636872352e330000#post_5390bcea636872352e330000\r\nSadly not an option in the game, although that would have been really fucking awesome. I always end up with Yukiko, just cause I like her. Other Persona 4 ships of mine? Rise X Teddy, and Chei X Youske.","author":"4f41ee04945b701c41002af7"},{"id":"5390be446368725524b50100","topic_id":"5161dd617f123bd25900013d","body":"\"@twistedmetalero\":/dis/the-time-wasting-thread/post/5390be176368721a3ccd0200#post_5390be176368721a3ccd0200\r\nI probably laughed harder at that than is healthy.","author":"4f41ee04945b701c41002af7"},{"id":"5390be616368727c1f550100","topic_id":"5161dd617f123bd25900013d","body":"\"@twistedmetalero\":/dis/the-time-wasting-thread/post/5390be176368721a3ccd0200#post_5390be176368721a3ccd0200\r\nI gotta admit, I lol'd","author":"4fde0c7e945b706cc30003eb"},{"id":"5390c06f63687224555e0100","topic_id":"5161dd617f123bd25900013d","body":"ILL DO ANYTHING TO KEEP THIS THREAD ALIVE\r\n\r\n!https://31.media.tumblr.com/5400557f3e67b676ff09b1040c361aef/tumblr_n60we8iQ9y1s2wio8o1_500.gif!\r\n!https://24.media.tumblr.com/9a38986c91c56e592d5ac46c6fe48a00/tumblr_n60we8iQ9y1s2wio8o2_500.gif!\r\n!https://24.media.tumblr.com/f52fd87aff680be7a4d0265006735c13/tumblr_n60we8iQ9y1s2wio8o3_500.gif!","author":"5154c5237f123bcd580002fc"},{"id":"5390c0f66368725524940200","topic_id":"5161dd617f123bd25900013d","body":"I've realized I am shy around new people. Once I get to know them though I am my old scrappy self.\r\n\r\nWho is Green Madoka?","author":"4fe16df67f123b13e400003f"},{"id":"5390c0fd6368720301180200","topic_id":"5161dd617f123bd25900013d","body":"\"@twistedmetalero\":/dis/the-time-wasting-thread/post/5390c06f63687224555e0100#post_5390c06f63687224555e0100\r\nAh... The Spiderman Toku, While it wasn't as good as Kamen rider, It wasn't that bad","author":"5062d6f17f123b3e16001184"}]}